New System for Handling Films Marked as Adult
Recently, a lot of sexploitation and other classic exploitation and cult films have been removed from Letterboxd because someone on TMDB has been marking them as Adult. I think that the process of importing titles needs to be rethought, because it is drastically affecting my abilities to keep track of my lists and reviews, and it really hurts to see titles disappear after I have put effort into writing reviews and managing lists.
Something really needs to be done about this, because this has continued to be an issue since I first started using the site, and so far there has been no solution to these issues.
Let’s do this: can someone in this thread compile a list of “important/historically significant” adult films that should be on LB. Then we can see about adding an exceptions list to our importer that uses this list.
I'm also in favor of this. Many films by Jean Rollin, Edward Wood Jr, Jess Franco, etc., are classified as adult but are 'important' by virtue of their creators alone.
Why not have adult films 'invisible' on the site, but have a setting to allow for their visibility?
What I suspect would happen has happened...god forbid a movie have sex scenes! I don't like seeing people lose their reviews and having movies cut off from lists. It's like sending movies into oblivion. I'm glad this site isn't the only way I keep track of movies, but it could be for others. I'm like half asleep and grouchy, but in all seriousness, I respect people may not want to see adult content for whatever reason and adding a filter to toggle on and off (like TMDb) would be a sweet deal and the most reasonable solution. Even though the classification of certain movies as "adult" is still quite blurry and varies from person to person, at least they wouldn't be hidden from the site.
Luís Fonseca commented
I can't import Naked (1993), written and directed by Mike Leigh. Might be marked as "Adult" on TMDB solely based on the name.
This needs dealt with and not just “important/historically significant” adult films as there are plenty that aren't that good but are interesting from a filmography viewpoint ie Wes Cravens adult films.
Morbus Iff commented
Yeah, but I get the feeling that the issue here is NOT one of "how hard it is to implement" but rather one of morality from the people behind Letterboxd. I get the impression they're just unwilling to do it because it makes them feel dirty. Or wrong. Or less Christian. Or something.
Morbus Iff, I like what others have suggested where each person has a filter in their setting that can be turned on or off as to whether or not to see adult content. Then we wouldn't even have to worry about artwork.
Morbus Iff commented
I would much rather see the Adult filter go away. Letterboxd should not be responsible for my sensibilities: if it was, there'd be no romcoms on the site. I'd much rather see that ALL adult films are ALLOWED but, for the purpose of keeping the site "clean", NO artwork would be associated with them.
Would also like to see a solution to this issue
Checking in again, as well.
Another check-in for updates on this issue. Thank you.
It's upsetting that there are plenty of films I've seen that I can't add. We really should just do a filter that each person can turn off and on in their settings to specify whether they want to see adult films or not. I think that would be much simpler than creating an exception list and having to add stuff to it every time some one suggests something.
The Private Afternoons Of Pamela Mann has been mentioned, directed by Radley Metzger, who just died. I find it depressing that I just saw it but cannot log this one in.
I notice more movies disappearing because of this every day and it's really frustrating. Luckily there are more obscure titles that make it through because nobody cares to check up on them, but for more popular movies like by Jean Rollin and Jess Franco which I've noticed, keep randomly disappearing. Why not add an option to toggle whether "adult" films are shown or not like how TMDB does? People who don't want to see them won't have to and those who want to still can. I really want to like Letterboxd but this is definitely hindering my experience on the site and I'm wary to write reviews about certain movies in case they end up missing from the site.
A lot of films have been marked as Adult or Video on TMDB and has been deleted here which is really annoying. A lot of these movies are not Adult or compilation Videos
Any updates on this?
I put together this list over the site. So far, it's got a few likes - even if its nowhere the level as most lists get when they become popular. I still think it gauges that this is something quite a few (with the votes here on Feedback) would like to see happen.
I so, so, so would like to help contribute to this. There are so many “adult” titles that really deserve to be in the database simply on culturally significant terms. I still find it bizarre that "Deep Throat" isn't even on here (and I'm saying that as someone who absolutely despises that film) - and then while some of Metzger's adult films are here (due to TMDb not recognizing them as such), his most essential title (and one that had Oscar buzz in the year of its release) is "The Opening of Misty Beethoven" and it is also barred from being on Letterboxd.
Focusing strictly on cultural impact and/or artistic merit (some of these are by respected auteurs such as Abel Ferrara or Jesus Franco, Russ Meyer, Richard Kern, et all) … Not basing this on personal picks, at all - these are titles that should definitely be in the database beyond what the “adult” block would allow. As predictable, they grow less and less “significant” following the growth of the video and internet porn age (where many scholars of adult film as important to cinema tend to dwindle). I think that further illustrates these titles as worth Letterboxd entry, unlike, say, a “Sluts Vol. 9” DVD or something…
And yes, some of these may actually be in the TMDb database, unscathed by the block. But much of these aren't ... like how the cultural zeitgeist that is "Deep Throat" isn't allowed on Letterboxd, but its less unheard of or significant sequel is...
Mondo Topless (1966)
The Stewardesses (1969)
Italian Stallion (1970)
Boys in the Sand (1971)
The Geek (1971)
Behind the Green Door (1972)
Deep Throat (1972)
Devil in Miss Jones (1973)
Forced Entry (1973)
Angel Number 9 (1974)
Flesh Gordon (1974)
The Private Afternoons of Pamela Mann (1974)
The Passions of Carol (1975)
The Story of Joanna (1975)
9 Lives of a Wet Pussy (1976)
Alice in Wonderland: An X-Rated Musical Comedy (1976)
The First Nudie Musical (1976)
The Opening of Misty Beethoven (1976)
Through the Looking Glass (1976)
Anna Obsessed (1977)
The Devil Inside Her (1977)
The Enema Bandit (1977)
Debbie Does Dallas (1978)
Blonde Ambition (1981)
Neon Nights (1981)
Café Flesh (1982)
Satan’s Baby Doll (1982)
Taboo II (1982)
Three Daughters (1986)
Lulu’s Talking Ass (1986)
Stolen Honeymoon (1998)
The Fashionistas (2002)
If you need any kind of information – whether they be scholarly articles or links to reviews from top critics or awards signifiers – let me know. I can back up each and every one of these as worthy under the canon of art-driven cinema.
Jason Pettus commented
I don't understand why films labeled "adult" at TMDB are being blocked at Letterboxd in the first place. Is it so terrible to treat us like grown-ups and let us decide for ourselves which movies we watch are going to get listed at our accounts or not? I'm writing an entire book right now of analytical essays about various adult movies from the 1970s that blur the line between obscenity and the art-film crowd, and I can't post a single one of these reviews at Letterboxd. I'm 47 years old, staff, I should be allowed to list a movie with wee-wees and ha-has if I want to.
I agree with street 100%.
Looking back at my tmdb account is really depressing. So many reviews I've written that are lost now because of this annoying tag. Please allow adult films. Even if adult films were allowed across the board I don't think any LB user is interested in reviewing random garbage porn, assuming that is the fear here.