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New System for Handling Films Marked as Adult

Recently, a lot of sexploitation and other classic exploitation and cult films have been removed from Letterboxd because someone on TMDB has been marking them as Adult. I think that the process of importing titles needs to be rethought, because it is drastically affecting my abilities to keep track of my lists and reviews, and it really hurts to see titles disappear after I have put effort into writing reviews and managing lists.

Something really needs to be done about this, because this has continued to be an issue since I first started using the site, and so far there has been no solution to these issues.

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  • Cliff commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Surely this can be a group effort. I'll start things off:

    Deep Throat
    Debbie Does Dallas
    Beyond the Green Door
    The Devil in Miss Jones
    The Opening of Misty Beethoven
    Through the Looking Glass
    Café Flesh
    Corruption
    Thundercrack!

    Probably anything put out by legit cineaste labels like Synapse and Vinegar Syndrome.

  • hill89 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Is the plan to do it on a film by film basis? If so, I think a good idea would be maybe just a simple page where people can recommend movies to be added to the exception list so that we're not creating a big jumbled list here, but I'll try to come up with some soon to help get things started.

  • fiffy_rico commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    This is really vital. As others have mentioned, there are plenty of porn films that are unquestionably important to cinematic history. This policy simply reproduces the a priori assumption that any and all "porn" is inherently "less cinematic" than even the trashiest, goriest, most violent exploitation crap (speaking as someone who loves that stuff too!). As long as it doesn't have too much bewbs or unsimulated doing-it! I don't even like porn but argh I feel like I have to defend it here.

    But all of this stuff is valid, especially especially to those researching representation of sexuality and gender (ok ok and ppl who just wanna catalogue their spankbanks I guess, WHATEVER!). I mean, we don't need to include a bunch of gonzo scenes, right? But even fairly recent feature-length stuff like the Pirates of the Caribbean parody should be included imo.
    [I'm not sure if I can make a proper philosophical distinction between gonzo scenes with threadbare, repetitive narrative gestures and full-length porn parodies without undercutting my smartypants "a priori" argument above but at least we need to start with the stuff we know has had historical impact, like the titles already mentioned in this thread.]

  • Alex commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    What is "straight pornographic material"? Gonzo porn from the web? It's clear to me that these are not FILMS.

    But films like "Long Jeanne Silver" or "The Opening of Misty Beethoven" certainly are, and gravely important ones at that. Thus they should be made available, as well as any other pornographic work that can be regarded as being a FILM. If this keeps getting ignored, you're excluding a huge section of world cinema. And I'm still not sure why. If needed, some form of "adult profile" should be easily implemented. Apart from that, it's hard to fathom that any child or adult will get corrupted by discussions about a 40 year old John Holmes film. I thought this site was about sharing the love of cinema. I'm sorry, but from its inception cinema includes pornography.

  • AdminMatthew Buchanan (CEO / Founder, Letterboxd) commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Cult films with adult elements should not be marked as Adult on TMDb, as far as we aware. This flag is meant for straight pornographic material.

    It’s possible we can override the Adult flag in certain cases where films are of historical significance but where TMDb insists they are Adult. I do not have a timeframe for this work, however.

  • Sean commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    It should be trivial to allow for a flag to be set to movies marked as 'adult' that could be filtered out of default search results unless a user is logged in and confirms their age is over 18. This would allow your core user base, many of whom are exploitation/cult movie fans, to continue to review/discuss important cult films that happen to have adult elements in them.

  • Alex commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I'd like to second that notion. It doesn't make any sense to exclude adult films and only diminishes the very thing this site stands for: The exploration of any and all kinds of cinema.

  • Turner Stewart commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Any updates on this issue Letterboxd admins?

    I haven't logged any of the film I've been watching recently on the newly launched exploitation.tv streaming service because none of them are on Letterboxd (including three Radley Metzger films). Can we please get adult titles on Letterboxd already by giving users the option to "See Mature Titles."

  • Tony Harding commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I believe that adult films are very important to the history of cinema, and think they deserve some degree of respect.

  • hill89 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Seriously, to not allow them is to not acknowledge their significance in the history of film.

  • James commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Please, please, please allow us to log adult films. There are so many grindhouse classics labelled as adult that i'm not able to log and have to simply mention in a review for a film I watched on the same day.

    I think a great compromise would be allowing users to filter adult titles like IMDb does.

  • James commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    +3. Strongly agree. Manny vs Pacquio, MGS3, but no adult classics?

  • James commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    There is a world of adult film classics that aren't allowed on Letterboxd. Legitimate titles like The Opening of Misty Beethoveen, Behind the Green Door, Nightdreams, Cafe Flesh. Yet we're allowing things like a boxing match (Mayweather vs. Pacquiao)? This doesn't make much sense to me.

  • Vuk Stevic commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I'd suggest that movies which are marked as Adult appear on Letterboxd, at least giving users an option of a filter to turn on or offf, because there are many movies on TMDB which are not really pornographic, but marked as adult (such as documentaries dealing with the adult industry, or classic sexploitation flicks). i am asking this because most users watch these kinds of films and yet are unable to keep track of them on your site, much less review or share them, thus our general use of the site is incomplete. I'd really like to be able to track all of the movies I watch, regardless of them being children's cartoons or exploitation flicks with hardcore scenes. There is no point in banning such titles from your site as long as they don't show posters or other material of adult nature. Heck, even IMDb shows the actual titles to their users, only without showing the posters.

  • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I want to add for example the Finnish movie Breaking Point (1975) but can't find it because it has been specified as "adult" in TMDB and defaukt search exclude adult film.

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